BILLY!!! THEY R OCCI’S!!! (u bought my pair that i brought in to “the bowl”. mom told me u picked em up the next day or so)
[quote=“fishguy9, post:101, topic:1646”]
BILLY!!! THEY R OCCI’S!!! (u bought my pair that i brought in to “the bowl”. mom told me u picked em up the next day or so)[/quote]
Ok, and yea your mom said they were yours. I wasn’t really arguing, just after reading and seeing pictures of occi’s they didn’t quite look like they were, was wondering if maybe they were just mis-ID’d when you bought them. I am sure it happens pretty often.
good point… very well may of been. NORMALLY the true percs have more black on them. but thats not a rule. (i wasnt arguing either…) just didnt know if u saw my first post on them.
If you’ve moved your GSP’s all over trying to get them to open more, that’s probably why they haven’t. Give them a few weeks in one spot and they will adjust. A bit of iodine supplementation will often make them extend further. That said, too much will kill everything in your tank, so be careful with it.
[quote=“fishguy9, post:103, topic:1646”]
good point… very well may of been. NORMALLY the true percs have more black on them. but thats not a rule. (i wasnt arguing either…) just didnt know if u saw my first post on them.[/quote]
It’s cool. I just like to read into the internet information too much sometimes, and like I (and everyone else) has said before, you can ask a question to 3 or 4 experienced aquarists and sometimes get 7 or 8 different answers… lol Regardless of what type of clownfish they are, they are my favorite… ALIVE! haha.
[quote=“Jocephus, post:104, topic:1646”]
If you’ve moved your GSP’s all over trying to get them to open more, that’s probably why they haven’t. Give them a few weeks in one spot and they will adjust. A bit of iodine supplementation will often make them extend further. That said, too much will kill everything in your tank, so be careful with it.[/quote]
Yeah, when i first got the GSP I started it at the bottom of the tank, and then after a week moved it up to the highest rock I had in the tank, which was probably only about 7 or 8 inches off the sand bed, about half way up the tank, maybe a little bit less. Then I got a couple of new pieces of rock that gave me a little bit more height after some new aquascaping. Then after moving the rock around, I got a little bit of a brown algae/diatom outbreak and after everything settlied, it looked like maybe some of the diatoms may have settled on the GSP. So a few of my cerith snails took it upon themselves to start cleaning him off, and at some point one inadvertently knocked him off the rock and upside down on the sand. But it seems like ever since the snailes were on him, those ‘polyps’ do not come out at all… and the fleshy part of the GSP is even a different color, almost a pinkish color instead of a white like it was when i first got it. Regarless, I have him back at the original height that he seemed to like the most before I re-aquascaped, so I am gonna leave him there for a few weeks and see what happens…
Thanks for the info on the iodine, I will think about it, but i’d rather not dose since I have heard horror stories about it, and I dont have a way to test for it, if there is an iodine test even out on the market, never looked.
Billy
my gsp is all over the tank. some up top, some down bottom, with different amounts of flow on each. they r all doing nicely. so i say (i agree with joe), just put them where u think they will look best and let em settle. it does take a few weeks sometimes for them to adjust.
on the iodine note… i always recommend going with iodide in leiu of iodine. its nowhere near as lethal, so not as easy to overdose. jic… know what im saying? do some reading on the differences between the 2.
I have another addition to the tank, thanks to The Fish Bowl. After reading what BJ said about having $20 frags, I figured I’d stop in and take a look, boy am I glad I did… I have wanted a torch for about a month now…
The only thing I am worried about is the reach of its tentacles after the lights go off and he extends… might have to move either it or my zoa… we’ll see…
In this last picture, I inadvertently touched the zoa with the bag I was using to place the torch… it wasn’t very happy about it, as you can tell…
looks like u got plenty of room 4 awhile. the torches arent as bad as most of the euphyllia. and the sweepers dont seem to be as long as some of the others. btw, the coraline is lookin good!!
Yeah that piece of rock came with the coralline on there 
it’s a piece of rock from Dr. Macs, I think it came from around Vietnam or something. But you can see it is beginning to spread to all of my plastic pieces (overflow, power heads, etc…) ever since I started dosing regularly with buffer it seems to be really fanning out all over. Cant wait until it’s got EVERYTHING covered.
Well, it looks like I have already killed the torch coral I just bought on Monday. Not real sure why it died. I have been checking all of my water parameters, and they are all pretty darn good. Here is what they are as of last night:
Amm: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
PH: 8.3
Salinity: 1.025
Calcium: 435
KH/Alk: 6.85/2.45
Magnesium: 1335
The KH/Alk and Calcium are a little low but just barely from what I have read… Last water change was bout 2 weeks ago and was 20% of the tank/sump volume. I supplement once a week with Trace Elements, every couple of days with Buffer, and I feed with Frozen Brine shrimp and marine snow daily.
I have read that you have to be very careful with handling torch corals because they damage easily, and when I got him home from the LFS he was upside down in the bag, I am wondering if that is the reason? I will get pictures up as soon as my lights turn on this morning…
EDIT: I wanted to make sure that last paragraph didnt sound like I was downing the LFS… I meant for it to sound as if I may have flipped it upside down in advertently in the bag… during transport…
Yep… dead… another wasted $20
That’s not quite dead yet. The neon green tenticles you see on the right can very well grow back in to a full colony.
Give it time, proper flow, light and food and see what happens.
Here is an updated picture from just a few minutes ago… The picture I posted up there was from about 8pm last night. There is only about 2 or 3 little green heads left, the rest have turned what looks like a brownish color.
whats your tanks temp?
also, what do you use to measure salinity?
i used a swing arm hydrometer for a year and when i switched to a refractometer boy was i surprised to find the hydrometer would read 1.025, took the same water and the refractometer said 1.032.
swing arms are not really reliable.
ps do you have an ATO? this time of year water evap and temps make even a 55s parameters shift too fast.
just trying to help figure out what happened
:BEER
My tank temps stay between 79 and 81 degrees, it has never exceeded those temps, even on the hottest days.
I do use a hydrometer to measure salinity but I have taken my water to Dr. Mac’s on a couple of occasions. When my hydrometer would test 1.023 they were showing 1.025 on their refractometer. I am actually planning on picking up a refractometer as my next purchase for the tank, as opposed to another coral or more fish.
I do not use an ATO, I have to add about 1 gallon of water every 2 days to my tank, and I add it to my sump on the end farthest from the return zone. This way it has plenty of time to mix in as to not throw off salinity or temp. Unfortunately with where my tank is located, an ATO on the sump isn’t feasible right now, but is in the plans for the future when I have some more time.
I appreciate the help, I have really wanted a torch coral since I first saw one, and it really really sucks that it has died. There is now no visible green heads.
The only thing I could think of was that the ride home may have been a little too much for them, while being upside down in the bag and hitting bumps, they would have been bouncing up and down. I highly doubt it is anything else, but its possible.
Both of my zoanthid frags and my gsp are doing fine. As a matter of fact the GSP has actually started to peek out a little more, and there are more and more polyps every day, so it looks as if it is going to make a full return. My Clowns, shrimp, emerald crab, and various snails are doing well also, still laying eggs like crazy…
Ive got a large pink torch colony that ive had for a long time and i after years with nothing but growth i killed half the colony in less than a day. And the killer? …to much flow!! I recently changed the flow in my tank and although i was technically downgrading i didnt notice that the torch was getting hit a LOT harder than before. Instead of simply retracting its polyps like any sensible coral would do, it stayed extending and allowed its flesh to be pulled free of the skeleton. I didnt figure out was was going on until almost half the colony was gone but its recuperating in my frag tank now.
Dang… that never crossed my mind… it was sitting pretty close to one of my power heads, but never seemed to be getting directly hit too much… just times where it would get hit pretty good… i wonder if that had anything to do with it…
Mine literally peeled off one piece at a time. The tissue doesnt go down into the skeleton as it might seem but rather lays on top of the skeleton. The first time i noticed a piece that had come off it looked almost exactly like a tiny anemone…very strange. My colony was the size of a softball, probably a little larger, and i lost half maybe more in only 2 or 3 days. Since ive put it in my low flow frag tank its completely stablized.
thanks for the info shawn, fortunately mine is away from lots of flow and seems fine. was part of the cheapies at dr macs, from the tank that cracked.
i lost mine also… from the same batch. i got a couple others that r doing fine, but for some reason those bright green torches were less than 50% survival on this run. (im sure your lfs will remediate the situation ;D)
u got pm
i am wondering the same as u said earlier billy. i didnt see the torches when they came in, but i wonder how much tossing (inside the bags) goes on during transit… ???