Bananas in the Tank

Week 18… MEGA UPDATE!!!

It’s been one month since my last update so I put a bunch of stuff together for this week. On a personal note, I’ve been donating my time at the Food Bank of Delaware. We feed approximately 250,000 people a year (1 in 4 Delawareans), mostly children. It’s an epidemic and I’m proud to be part of the solution. Back to the fish.

The brood stock are approximately 8.5-10.5 months old now. Of the three pairs, two seem to be doing very well. Unfortunately, the Alpha pair has not bonded to the same extent of the Beta or Gamma pairs. The Alpha female has rejected her male and he is not ascending into the social order. He remains a non-sexual juvenile, lacking the coloration and body development of the other males. The Alpha female remains a beautiful specimen and I’m already making plans with another breeder to find her a replacement male. On the plus side, this may eventually lead to a healthier gene pool and variety in her offspring.

The Beta pair has begun displaying the same cleaning behavior that the Gammas have been doing for over a month now. They take turns twitching and cleaning the bottom most portion of the clay pot.

The Gamma male has developed more than any other fish in the last month. He has put on significant weight, developed deep coloration and my pictures don’t do justice to how handsome this fish has become.

The following pictures and videos were taken with the assistance of a florescent light. If the fish appear spooked, it’s because they are.

Alpha “Pair”

Alpha Female

Alpha “Male”

Beta Pair

Beta Female

Beta Male

Gamma Pair

Gamma Female

Gamma Male

They are looking good. It might be soon. they are maturing and morphing still. I’m sure. But usually at about a year they could be ready to spawn. Im still betting on april-june.

Glad to hear you support the Food Bank. I do too with donations , sometimes a check, mostly food donations. I grocery shop many times a week. a little at a time, and when i find bargains, or the old two-fer-ones i buy extra for the food bank, as my budget allows. It’s a good thing. I have noticed a lot more people of all walks of life coming in for some help the past couple years. I got another shopping cart full to drop off soon. See you there.

So that’s a good point, let’s not blow it all on tanks, leave a little to help our fellow Delawareans.

But your system still looks good! Nothing quite as fun as a science project.

Week 22

I’m quickly developing some bad habits as I try to put the brood stock out of my mind for now. I’m falling way behind on weekly water changes and the poor fish are not getting fed nearly as often as they had become accustomed to. My best guess is that the fish are now 9-11 months old.

The alpha male continues to be the runt of the liter. He hasn’t developed in months. The female continues to chase him away from her territory but occasionally seeks him out for some companionship.

The beta and gamma pairs are the most likely to produce some offspring. The beta pair seems to be more developed, especially when it comes to the female having a fatter belly. However, the gamma pair seems to be displaying more cooperative behavior. It’s a toss up as to who will spawn first. The gamma male looks like he is getting a little heavier. I noticed his anal fin has a gap between the black coloration today which I think it’s a result of the fin growing recently.

Alpha Female

Alpha Female

Alpha Male

Alpha Male

Beta Pair

Beta Pair

Beta Female

Beta Female

Beta Male

Beta Male

Gamma Female

Gamma Female

Gamma Male

Gamma Male

DAY 437

Happy New Year.

First Spawn. Beta Pair. 01/01/11.

The male is tending the eggs. That leads me to believe there is a good chance they are fertilized. Only about 30 eggs visible. They are a healthy orange color.

That is Awesome! Very exciting to get some spawning out of the :slight_smile: If you need any pointers about growing rotifers and collecting eggs, just ask ken, chris or barb, or I and any of us could help out a lot! Good luck and keep us posted!

Very nice! Something I would like to dive into doing.

Awesome!! congratulation!!

you’re a grandpa! very nice. reduced prices to drc? right?

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That is Awesome! Very exciting to get some spawning out of the :slight_smile: If you need any pointers about growing rotifers and collecting eggs, just ask ken, chris or barb, or I and any of us could help out a lot! Good luck and keep us posted![/quote]

Thanks, I just spoke to Chris and Barb and they don’t have a rotifer culture going atm. We might split the cost on ordering a culture. Did you have an active culture going? Maybe I could just borrow a rotifer or two from you. I know I’m going to need to order a concentrated phyto to feed them. What brand are you guys using?

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you’re a grandpa! very nice. reduced prices to drc? right?[/quote]

If it was a little earlier I’d give them away for stocking stuffers. :BEER But yes, I’m eventually going to sell them online or to local fish stores and I will be giving a MASSIVE discount to my friends who have been so supportive throughout this process.

I think PatB has a current roti culture growing. Maybe you can score a cup of roti’s from him to start your own. They probably won’t be ready in time for this batch of eggs (I forget how long it takes the eggs to hatch) but you’ll have a nice dense culture in about 2 weeks.

I used nannochloropsis from Reed Mariculture (http://www.reedmariculture.com/microalgae/nanno.asp). It comes thick enough to be cut about 4 separate times and will last a looooong time for you.

[quote=“Cdangel0, post:91, topic:573”]
I think PatB has a current roti culture growing. Maybe you can score a cup of roti’s from him to start your own. They probably won’t be ready in time for this batch of eggs (I forget how long it takes the eggs to hatch) but you’ll have a nice dense culture in about 2 weeks.

I used nannochloropsis from Reed Mariculture (http://www.reedmariculture.com/microalgae/nanno.asp). It comes thick enough to be cut about 4 separate times and will last a looooong time for you.[/quote]

I’m sure someone will step up and offer me a cup of rotis! Saint:)

It should take about 11 days until they hatch.

My roti culture expired a year ago. I gave the last of my Phyto frozen concentrate to Craig about then. but since you have to buy some frozen concentrate algae from Reeds, you can get the live rotis too to start.

or try some of these dried rotifer cysts to start. they come in a tiny sealed glass vial. looks just like a spec of dust for 3000 cysts. but plenty to start a culture. put them in water and they hatch, then feed them the green stuff.

or from here, and small live cultures too.
https://3kserver7.com/~frank/secure/agora.cgi?cart_id=6994538.4794*kx5kK1&product=LIVE_CULTURES

Alpha Pair. First Spawn. 02.10.11

When it rains, it pours. My second set of Picassos is now PROOVEN!!!

I came home tonight to find a pretty healthy looking egg clutch on the base of the frogspawn in the 90 gallon reef tank. I knew the pair was up to something, they’ve been cleaning and cleaning the base of the frogspawn for a couple of weeks now. This is too awesome.

congrats! nice fish, nice spawn.

Nice pictures,let me know when you have some for sale.

thats awesome dude, congrats!!!

i too am interested once you get some sellable babies

Congrats thats so awesome. I just got my first pair of semi picassos from The Fish Bowl around sept2010 and love them.

They look great cant wait to see them hatch.

that’s cool and let me know to if you want to sell any of the babies

Thanks guys!

I’ll definitely be looking to sell to the local market or possibly trading the offspring for coral frags.

First things first though… let’s see if any of the eggs make it to hatch day! >LOL<