red stuff taking over

i as well use 2 number 4 koralas i have one center of back wall and one on right side pointing toward each other on a downward angle and believe it or not a small wave action occurs from them hitting each other.

I don’t want to hijack so I will start a new thread about a vortex (whirlpool is not the correct term.)

[quote=“Cdangel0, post:20, topic:901”]
Cyano is bacterial and therefore is not as effected by turning the lights off.[/quote]

Not totally true… Its is bacterial but it does use photosynthesis.

Cyanobacteria From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Cyanobacteria Anabaena sphaerica Anabaena sphaerica Scientific classification Domain: Bacteria Phylum: Cyanobacteria

Cyanobacteria, also known as blue-green algae, blue-green bacteria or Cyanophyta, is a phylum of bacteria that obtain their energy through photosynthesis. The name “cyanobacteria” comes from the color of the bacteria (Greek: κυανός (kyanós) = blue). They are a significant component of the marine nitrogen cycle and an important primary producer in many areas of the ocean, but are also found in habitats other than the marine environment; in particular cyanobacteria are known to occur in both freshwater[2] and hypersaline inland lakes.[3]

Stromatolites of fossilized oxygen-producing cyanobacteria have been found from 2.8 billion years ago.[4] The ability of cyanobacteria to perform oxygenic photosynthesis is thought to have converted the early reducing atmosphere into an oxidizing one, which dramatically changed the composition of life forms on Earth by provoking an explosion of biodiversity and leading to the near-extinction of oxygen-intolerant organisms. Chloroplasts in plants and eukaryotic algae may have evolved from cyanobacteria via endosymbiosis.

[quote=“martinfaimly, post:21, topic:901”]
i as well use 2 number 4 koralas i have one center of back wall and one on right side pointing toward each other on a downward angle and believe it or not a small wave action occurs from them hitting each other.[/quote]
That would be the exact reason people smash them together to create that ripple and varied water flow.

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[quote=“Cdangel0, post:20, topic:901”]
Cyano is bacterial and therefore is not as effected by turning the lights off.[/quote]

Not totally true… Its is bacterial but it does use photosynthesis.[/quote]

That’s why I said “not as effected” by turning the lights off. Unlike standard green algae that will die off in a day or two without light, cyano will not, it will hold on much much longer without light.

In my tank Cyano is extremely effected by the light. More light = more cyano. Cyano is considered a bacteria/algae hybrid, the experts classify it as both. It is very photosynthetic an will fuel its self on its own decaying matter, hence why it can quickly take over.

Cyano uses phosphates, nitrates and photosynthesis to proliferate. Algae also use food to grow not just photosynthesis. I have put algae in a dark bucket and a week later it was still green. (Actually more like 2 weeks till I put bleach in the bucket to kill it) When I had my Cyano outbreak I siphoned Cyano during a water change. I left a bucket of water change water behind the tank which was dark. The next day there was a mad woman screaming about the smell. FYI Dead/Dying Cyano stinks bad. It dies off faster then algae without light.
When I turned my lights off the algae seemed fine but the cyano died back some.
I believe Jon and Icy both have first hand experience with using light to control cyano.
If you are lacking in 1 of the 3 you will not have a Cyano or Algae problem. I ultimately used chemical means to rid the Cyano and it never came back.

Yeah, I have some experience in this area. verdict_in If you kill the lights for three days and it’s still there, I’ll eat my hat. :SPIT)

Yeah… killing the lights will kill it. However if you dont do waterchanges while the lights or off or get it all it will come back shortly.

…and if you don’t do water changes it could cause the tank to crash or the nutrients could fuel something worse.

[quote=“edubs23, post:10, topic:901”]
i do think i was feeding a little too much. I have cut it back a bit. Maybe that was the problem. I was just reading the post about the diff salts and affects of changing. I just switched from crystal sea to reef crystal do any of you guys think i will have any additional problems.[/quote]

Feeding to much? How much do you feed. I believe i got my last outbreak of red slime when i fed to much.

I have only been sucessful when i used chemicals but have never tried to turn the lights off

i have made a few changes. I pulled all my live rock out and blew it off in a separate bucket. I also took this opportunity to switch from cc to sand. most of the red slime was removed. There is still some that I’m sure will start growing again. While i was cleaning things i found this red slime remover in my fish closet not sure how old it is but have any of you used it or heard of it here is a pic. I hope all these changes don’t bite me in the a$$ later. Every thing looks good for now.


Has anyone used this red slime remover by ultra life. Is it the same as red slime control from blue vet and since i dont know how old it is do you think it can go bad.

I haven’t used it, but really don’t think it will go bad. I’ve used some pretty old supplies of Chemi-Clean.

Just make sure you follow the direction to the T or bad things can happen quickly.

What bad things ?

[quote=“edubs23, post:33, topic:901”]
What bad things ?[/quote]

You can very easily wipe out your entire tank by not completeing the water change when you’re supposed to or changing the proper amount.

You will need to turn your skimmer off so it is essential to put an airstone somewhere (sump or DT) to properly aerate the water for the 2 days (I think) it takes for all of the red slime to die off. etc. etc. etc.

I also use chem-clean and it recommends adding an air stone as it will deplete O2 with its use. Have plenty of makeup saltwater on hand because they recommend doing a 25% water change when finished. When you turn the skimmer on it will dump gallons of waste water. Have at least 50% of the water volume available to replace the waste water. DO NOT TURN ON THE SKIMMER UNLESS you plan on sitting near the skimmer. You will need a drain line to a larger bucket. If you have to leave for anything turn the skimmer off or it may dump the tank on the floor.
On my 75 I changed 25 gallons initially and at least 50 gallons through waste water. Check the salinity and pH throughout the process