Doing the impossible!

I remember when i first purchased my GS maroon clown it seemed like everyone on the anemone/clown forum on RC said it was impossible to keep two, let alone pair them. Everyone said that they would kill each other off and the only to get a mated pair would be to purchase a wild caught mated pair. Hmmmmmm…

Here are pics of my new misbar GS maroon i got today from PA. As soon as i put him into the tank he went straight to the anemone. My mama clown went right up to him and nuzzled him. She hasnt shown any aggression towards the new clown at all although she has become a little more protective of the anemone than usual(poor chromis). Anyways, the pics. Enjoy.

sweet. can you keep two different types to gether. Ex. gs maroon and black & white? was the misbar in with others or was it the olny fish in the tank. one day i may get another for my tank so they can pair. need to do some research first.

can you keep two different types to gether. Ex. gs maroon and black & white?

I think you can keep different species in a large system but its recommended to keep only one type in a smaller system. Its not impossible, just not recommended.

was the misbar in with others or was it the olny fish in the tank

Im not sure what your asking.

I really hope that these two eventually mate. So far so good!

i thought that clowns change sex if there not in with other fish or something. im trying to get an idea how not to get another male ( if mine is indeed a female?) ive had mine since 02/09/08. wow i cant belive i still have that reciept.

That’s not nuzzling - that’s “sampling” like at Costco on Saturdays lOl

Kidding - congrats. Will be interested to see if they decide to mate. Try soft music and candlelight.

I’ve never been a big believer that you can’t keep more then 1 kind of clown in a tank - I’ll have 3 by this time tomorrow.

BZ - clowns will change sex - the larger more dominant of a pair will become female, the smaller male. Clowns from what I’ve read can change from male to female but not female to male.

Awsome. Glad to hear it worked out well. Couldn’t imagine it would have worked that well that fast!

Yeah, i didnt either. I was kind of expecting the worse. Needless to say im very happy right now.

My female is completely on top of the male in the anemone right now. If i didnt know better, i would say that they are already consumating their new relationship

Ewww…stop watching!!!

Perv.

lOl

u better make soure the female dosent drown him. lOl

Man, its too funny. They are little laying right on top of one another in the nem. Never in a million years did i think it would be this easy to pair up GS’s.

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sweet. can you keep two different types to gether. Ex. gs maroon and black & white? was the misbar in with others or was it the olny fish in the tank. one day i may get another for my tank so they can pair. need to do some research first.[/quote]

All clowns start their lives as males. If a clown is alone in the tank for any amout of time it will turn into a female. Your clown is probably a female by now. To get her a mate you would simply go to the pet store and find a tank full of babies, and choose one. Pick the smallest one there, and it will almost assuredly be a male.

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Man, its too funny. They are little laying right on top of one another in the nem. Never in a million years did i think it would be this easy to pair up GS’s.[/quote]

Normally with any species of clown there is a little picking on the male before she accepts him. Sounds like you either had one desperate female or you happened to pick up the fabio of males. Congrats :slight_smile:

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All clowns start their lives as males. If a clown is alone in the tank for any amout of time it will turn into a female. Your clown is probably a female by now. To get her a mate you would simply go to the pet store and find a tank full of babies, and choose one. Pick the smallest one there, and it will almost assuredly be a male. [/quote]
Where did you read this? Most things I have read says in a group the non dominate stay sexless. The largest most dominate fish will become the female and 1 of the non-sexed will become male. If the male dies another sexless fish will become male. If the female dies the male will turn female. Once female there is no turning back. However if not in a group a lone fish will become female.

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Will be interested to see if they decide to mate. Try soft music and candlelight.[/quote]

Or try vodka dosing. lOl

:-)lol

So thats why people dose vodka! It all makes sense now!

That is what I have read in all of my books. Joyce Wilkerson’s “Clownfish” as well as “The Breeders Guide to Marine Fishes” by another author both say the exact same thing. It is true that only one male will be the dominant male and spawn, but all of the others are actually males as well from a biology stand point. If they had the option and the female was willing, they could spawn as soon as the dominant male dies, no time required for devolepment of the reporductive structures.

are the cinnomon and tomato clown the same thing? if so what are the differences color, price,etc.

ok…now im confused. if the secondary “male” has to develop reproductive organs to become the primary male, wouldnt that make him sexless? Im with Al, i had always thought clowns are generally sexless and the sex will be determined by dominace in a group environment but i could be wrong, im by no means a clown expert.

BTW, what you said before is generally true for most clowns, but its typically not that easy for maroons. Ive read many a thread where smaller maroons were introduced in tanks with an established “female” only to be bullied and killed eventually. Trust me, i was so scared off by “experienced” clown keepers in RC’s clown/anemone forum that i never even considered pairing up my clown. I even made sure that charlie would take it back if it got its a$$ kicked.

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If they had the option and the female was willing, they could spawn as soon as the dominant male dies, [b]no time required for devolepment of the reporductive structures.[b/][/quote]

I was trying to say that they could spawn the next day with NO physiological changes if the female was ready and willing. I may have been a little confusing.

I have heard the same thing about the tomato’s, however im not sure I belive it. I think that if you get 2 males or one male and a female together they will pair up just fine. My guess is that its something along the lines of maroon clowns change sex quicker or something like that… I have heard other stories just like yours so IDK how true it is.

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are the cinnomon and tomato clown the same thing? if so what are the differences color, price,etc.[/quote]

No they arent the same species. Cinnamon clowns (Amphiprion melanopus) and Tomato clowns (Amphiprion frenatus) are different species, but closley related and share a body type. Tomato clowns have a solid orange-red body, with a single white stripe running vertically across their body between the eye and the gill. In simple terms, they are all one color (orange-red) other than a single white stripe. Cinnamon clowns are a similar body shape and have the same stripe, however cinnamon clowns have a much derker body, almost black in the middle of the fish. Their fins and a good portion of their body are still orange, but the main differance is the presence of the black.

I belive that both species originally have 2 stripes, and one dissapears as they grow, however im not sure about that. I know that that is the case with the cinnamons (which we have a pair of), but I havent ever kept any tomatos.

These two species are very closley related, and there is a distinct possibility that they can interbreed, however im just going on a few words here and there and a couple pictures, so dont base a buisness on that quote without doing more research. Hope that helps a bit… if you want to see pictures/prices just go to somewhere like www.saltwaterfish.com , click on fish, and then scroll down untill you are in the clownfish section. If you click on the links for tomato and cinnamon clowns you will be able to clearly tell what I am talking about.