i got a yellow toadstool from premium yesterday. i noticed what looked like hair alge but inorged it and brushed it off. there were also some tips on it that looked like canno . to day it looks like it doubbled in size. i reacted by blasting a power head on it. i have 4 other toadstool and never had any problems. what should i do.
the blotches look almost black now
I am not an expert on leathers by any means but I did get a hit on google. SoftCorHealth
About 1/4 of the way down they answer a letter about a leather with black spots.
Soft coral struggles: shipping delayThe < > are the answers provided in the middle of his question. Before doing anything I would wait for Icy or Gordonious. I sent them an email to check here.
Dear Mr. Fenner, My water temp is 76 degrees, PH is 8.0 and the Specific Gravity is 1.024. Yesterday I received a shipment of five soft corals [button polyps, cauliflower colt coral, and 2 toadstool mushroom leather] and one sand sifting sea star.
<is this a wholesale shipped order, transshipment, or retail purchase? Very different likely states of condition for livestock from these outlets>
The package was left by the shipping company on one of the docks and didn’t arrive overnight as promised. I was able to pick it up from the main office at 5pm the following day. Clarify, it was shipped Monday evening and I picked it up at 5pm Wednesday.
<OK… not too terrible, although I would almost NEVER recommend overnight service. Domestic service from the airlines is always faster and PDQ service (airport to airport baggage) is extremely fast and reliable… much faster than overnight and the airlines have climate controlled holding areas most of the way. Overnight carriers are not set up at ant point for livestock (cargo bellies, warehouses or trucks… all extreme weather exposure). Again… a shout out to all… please pick your livestock up at the airport. No FedEx or like carriers for live animals. Coast to coast is 6 hours on the commercial airliners. FedEx closes at 8pm at night and delivers by 10AM at best… that’s 14 hours minimum without climate control>
I slowly acclimated the new arrivals allowing them to float in the closed bags in the tank for about an hour.
<too long for shipping stressed animals… brief acclimation needed here. 30 minutes max IMO>
Then over a 1.5 period I gradually introduced my tanks water to their bags. The star seems to be doing very well and is very active. The corals I’m a little concerned about.
The Cauliflower had detached from the rock and is slumped over.
<Oh, ya… that’s a bad sign. But also a sign of inadequate water flow. Much stronger flow here please>
One of the Toadstool leathers has quite a bit of black spots around the top and a little bit on the trunk/stem.
<we can carve these out with a razor blade/X-acto knife if they continue to get necrotic. No worries here>
Most of it had detached from the rock while in the bag and now most of it is hanging off the rock.
<not as big of a deal as the Colt (Klyxum)>
This I’m most concerned about. I have been told that they can bounce back.
So my question, what is your opinion of this situation and is there anything I can do to “save” them?
<yep… even worst case scenario, they can be diced in cubes (the leathers) and propagated. The Colt will need to be stitched to a new rock with nylon thread. ASAP please. It needs to be secure and will not attach naturally as fast as the leathers>
Best regards, Geoff
<best regards, Anthony>
one blotch is about 1in by 1.5 in. the other is about .5 by .25 are the blotches dead. will they raise nirtrates. do i cut all it out.
I think they are the dead areas or some kind of stress induced disease area that will need to be removed. Call PA 224 3474 and see if Jon is working today.
I cant say that I’ve ever encounbered this with my leather. I would guess to take a sharp hobby knife (exacto) and cut out the affected area with a little healthy tissue around the sides to make sure you got it all. The main colony should be fine, and you can keep the piece you cut in a 10g holding tank or your QT tank to see if it starts to disintigrate. It may pull through… like I said I have never heard of this one before…
this is the first time this happened to me. i’v never seen anything like it. at worst i loose a frag of yellow toad. im probably going to use a razor blade. where do u buy exacto knifes from.
I get them from Michaels or Jonannes Fabrics. They are like 5$ for one with a handle and 5-6 blades. Just make sure you rinse them with fresh water after you use them and take them apart so they dont rust together.
I got a call from Jon. He is very busy but he said: (sorry don’t remember the exact terms)
Don’t cut that coral in the main tank. the type of toadstool releases a lot of bad stuff that will hard LPS and SPS. If you do frag it do it in another container and change the water a couple of times. If you have to put it back in the 75 (possibly use frag tank after you empty of corals) do a 25 % water change later today and run a lot of carbon.
He said if you can wait and he gets a chance he will research it more but he thinks you can cut the black area out like a bad apple spot but he will get more info
i sliced out most of the black in a tuper ware container. the remains of the black pieces are in my frag tank. am doin water change tonight. thank alot Al
I would dump the black spots. I ment to say if I was not clear to put the remaining toadstool in the frag tank so that the release would not get in the main tank. Run a lot of carbon and do a water change.
looks like it all crapped out. usually everthing i get from premium is awsome this toad stool sucked. the water in my frag is now yellow and im doin a water change in a few hours. im tossing the fragged pieces. all my coral in the frag is shriveled up.
There is a good chance that my gf and I will be getting a cat soon and I need to start cat proofing the fish room. >LOCO<
Might be easy just to pop a hood on the tank if I had only one, or close the door if it wasn’t a whole floor of the house… verdict_in
Most of the tanks have hoods which I can close off with some gutter guard or egg create, but any recommendations people might have besides covering the tanks would be helpful. It’s been a long time since I’ve been around animals that weren’t either reptiles, aquatic, or insects. The only other thing I can think of is closing off the closet with all the computer wires in it.
Thanks,
Jon
Get a dog, keep it in the fish room. Dogs don’t like cats and don’t care about fish. lol
Actually Jon you want to avoid using egg crate or gutter guard to “lid” the tanks.
What will eventually happen is that curious kitty will use the “lid” to walk on the aquarium. This may work while kitty is little, but when kitty growns in to the fat cow of a cat I have both of the afpre mentioned “lids” will give under the weight and you will ahve 1 very wet, very pissed off, and possibly one very dead cat in a fish tank.
My cats live in the basement with my tank, they used to be able to climb up on a shelf behind the tank and stick there noses in. Cats don’t like water, even water with fish in it. They realized very quickly they get very wet trying to catch a fish they will probably never catch and just give up. Now they will sit on the floor and stare at the tank just like everyone else, only difference is they still lick their lips a lot more then I do.
Options:
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Get a trigger in each tank. The cat will never stick its nose in again if it gets bit by one of those suckers.
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Get a monitor and keep it in the fish room. You may need a steady supply of new cats, but then at least you always have cute cuddly kittens.
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Hope for the best. Watch the cat and make sure that when it goes to check out a fish tank you have the spray bottle ready. After a few attempts they will learn. Plus, then you have a reason to sit in the fish room all day. “But honey, I’m making sure that the new kitten doesnt fall into any of the tanks.”
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2) Get a monitor and keep it in the fish room. You may need a steady supply of new cats, but then at least you always have cute cuddly kittens.[/quote]
This is very true. Kittens are cute but cats blow. Just need a new kitten every time the monitor feeds. Easy
Haha, cats really aren’t all that bad. My cat (still kind of a kitten, 1.5 years old) is nick named, devil, trouble, terror, anything bad really. She is a bully to all the other cats, attacks the dog, my grandma in her walker (she chases the wheels on her walker). She is a handful and more. But she never messes with my tank. The only thing she did was when I had fish in my sump, she would bat at them through the glass. At the apartment, she would get on the dresser next to my tank and look in, but never took the plunge. She loves water too, gets in the shower after me. She really just likes to watch the fish rather then take any action. I don’t think you will have a problem with the tanks. Just like fish, every cat is different with their each unique personalities. I think you will have more of a problem with computer wires then your fish. Goodluck, post pics when you get the cat!
i have 3 cats and the olny problem i have had is with one that walked across the guppys hood when it was up. kitten are wild so i dont know what they will do. i did see one cat bat at the pond fish(in a huge clear plastic tub) but have never seen anything worse than that. hope this helps
1) Get a trigger in each tank. The cat will never stick its nose in again if it gets bit by one of those suckers.
- Get a monitor and keep it in the fish room. You may need a steady supply of new cats, but then at least you always have cute cuddly kittens.
:-)lolLMAO