Moving Plan advice wanted...........please

Ok ladies and Gents. I am moving in 2 weeks. I finally secured the place. This quick moving is crazy. But I did get a 92 corner tank from some nice guy!!! So the 55 will be shifting over.

I have done some things the last couple of weeks to get ready for the move and the subsequent tank upgrade. I built a auto-top off with two connected buckets that equal 20 gallons. I want this to eventually be dripped in with Kalk.

I also did the simple mod to the G2 for the gate valve. (Al Savko is nice. I also ordered some bulkheads to connect my two Auto-top off.

Any advice on moving and transferring to the new tank. The sand is a dilemna for me. But I plan on just moving everything in 5 gallon topped buckets (2hr drive). Then leaving the sand alone with a little bit of water in the tank. I then will setup the old tank in the new house in a temp fashion. Then acquire some live rock. About 75 lbs. Let it cycle in tupperware box for a month. Then add that and some live sand to the new tank. Also creating a seperate sump and fuge.

Any thoughts?

5 gallon buckets will work well. They are a lot lighter then the 18 gallon ones I mover my tank with. Just make sure you have a good tight lid or you will have a nice smell in the vehicle when you are done. No matter what you do the sand bed will get disturbed. If you have a shallow sand bed it will be easier then if you have a DSB. Send a pm to firecrackerbob as he just moved to VA. 2 Hours for some fish in a 5 gallon bucket will not be a problem but heat might. A cooler might work better to keep the temp more consistent. Usually I take a cooler when I plan to travel from TPP.
Don’t put any rock in the bucket with the fish as it might crush them. Some cheato or large pvc elbows will give them some hiding places. If you have the ability to make extra water in advanced either here or at the new location. I couldn’t believe how much water I was missing.

No matter what you do it will cycle again but with the light bio-load you will be fine. Upon setup keep an eye on the tank as the amonia may spike. Lots of water changes during the first few weeks will help.

Is the 92 going to occupy the same place as the 55? If not you can set up the 92 add a fresh sand bed and new rock. Le it cycle right in the 92. This will give you ample time to play with the rock work, re-scape, and re-scape 3 or 4 more times before you’re ready to transfer everything over. Just keep water circulating and run your skimmer.

By the time the rock is done curing you’ll have a nice live sandbed to work with.

5 gallon buckets is definitely he way to move everything. You may want to look around and see if y0u can find some pre-made saltwater (comes in a 5 gallon box) as you probably won’t have as much when you arrive as you need to fill the tanks when you get there.

I bet if we polled around we could find enough bucket with lids for you to borrow vs. buying
1 probably have 5 I could lend for a bit

I would love to borrow some buckets but I think the problem would be this. I dont know when I could get them back to people.

Craig great Idea but my only problem is I have one good skimmer. So if I have the 55 setup with the skimmer then I am screwed.

Also with the sandbed and snails in the bed of the 55 should I just start over and lose the snails when i do the changeover or can I transfer this?

With a small bi-load and careful feeding you can get away with running without a skimmer for a few weeks. I’m not currently running one on the 75. Now I wish I were, but that’s just because I have one and it’s sitting right now. But for the time being I have not experienced any real ill effects of not having one.

As for the sand bed, if you use my last idea and set the 92 up with uncured rock, you could get away with reusing the sandbed as an ammonia spike isn’t going to do that much damage. I would not recommend trying to transfer the sandbed directly in to the 55 as you’re probably going to unleash some nasty crap that will seriously affect the inhabitants of the tank.

well there are a few ways you can go here depending on your time frame and how much agony you want. I wish I could say that it wasnt painfull, but I have to be brutally honest my move from newark to annapolis was a royal pain and im not working right now, so I had unlimited time to do it. I can understand now why people often sell it all when they move and start fresh…

so as Al mentioned, buckets are key no1. the more the merrier especially if you dont have a half full tank of water to move your stuff too. which is key two. you will want more water!
so without more delay I present how Eric had fun for three weekends:

pre weekend 1: settup temprary tank in annapolis. grudgingly filled it 1/3 full with tap made salt water (fortuntely the TDS is annap is abut 25 out of the tap!! but that goes back to the debate forum) put in a powerhead and heaters.

Weekend 1: brought down 20 gal of RODI, added to the tank, added half of my futute live sand, live rock that was in my sump for storage and cheto. started skimming and put cheto under a 65k compact flourecent light.
Weekend 2: 20 more gallons of RODI, 55 gal up to volume. brought down more liverock that was accesable from my display. including less tempermentle mushroom rock, and GSP rock. installed RODI unit in new place
Weekend 3: brokedown remanider of tank in newark.(8am) drove to annap, unloded livestock from car. broke down temporary tank into rubbermaind containers(12pm). removed temporary tank. installded new tank and got all livestock in. had just enough water to get sump going with skimmer, etc(8pm exhusted as hell).
(day two) rearanged liverock and livestock. had to drain sumo and re level it( tank is still off from what I would like…)
Following weeks(three/four so far) : minor mods to everything. increased flow quite a bit from previos design. modified lighting scheme. etc…

Lessons here- if you have the time I would reccomend the above. if your destination already has your display your in business. it would have made things much easier if I didnt have to break apart two tanks and rebuild it into one…
you will never have enough water! I would say even if you can get your new trank filled with RODI salt water, you should be prepared. if your plan is to move your existing tank to the new one at least think about filling the new tank half full with tap made salt water. its not ideal but its better than no water…

the only casualty I had in my move was a chromis, but that could have been from numerous things. all of my SPS, and zoos, and anemony made it(where my money is).
I beleive this method limited shock as much as possible. doing it in three sections also allowed time for the skimmer/ cheto to pull out any disturbed and newly created nutrients. I was also fortunate to move the final section on a 80degree day so there was little thermal shock to the system as well(drove with the windows down)…

If I could I would do it in sections again. just like this. it really lengthend the pain, but it worked. if I couldnt do this??

well heres my guess at the yank the bandaid aproach(one pre step for my destination and one move step)- I would make sure that my destination tank was full and had fresh aragonite sand in it. I would wash the sand with three rinses in small batches to remove the dust and allow for settling. after that jsut break all livestock down from the old tank into 5 gal buckets. fill one with your old live sand( only use a small portion of it in the new tank though for seeding the new sand), fill other buckets with liverock, break your livestock down into coolers in a thin layer and cover with two inches of water( if its gonna be cool out get a converter in your car to run a 100W heater for the livestock). get to the new place asap, get the skimmer going asap, put in live rock and livestock asap- dont make it pretty you can aquascape later.

Hope this helps
Cheers
Eric

oh one mod to my method:
I brought tank water(replacing the taken with fresh) not RODI down on weekends 1 and 2, and did water changes back in delware during the weeks between to clean the tank as much as possible… the tank water was admitently older, but I believe that similar water chemistry to what the livestock was used to also limited shock…

man thats a long post
EvIl GrIn

This is going to take me a couple of times to re read and modify my plans. Thanks. I think this is good info for all involved.

so who all is going. im pretty sure ill be there. It looks like alot of people are going and the raffles look awsome.

there is also a 20% off coupon.

i’ll be there. i put some stuff on the frag swapper site too.

I think i will be going too. Ive missed all the previous ones. not sure how the swaps and vendor tables work. but it will be nice to catch a seminar and get a frag or two.