So I know I did get a nudibranch baby in one of my frag bags from coralmania had little green looking spikes on its back. But on my superman monti it has 2 tubes on it like a tube worm but the heads look like as if its a sea slug/nudibranch. I dipped all the corals last night in coral RX dip and followed all instructions. But these survived.
Sounds like nudibrach. Best course of action is to isolate the frags in your QT tank and manual removal frequently of everyone you can find.(remove the frag in a small dish of water and pull off with tweezers) You can try doing a dip in TLF ReVive as well, but I’ve found most dips won’t have as good of an effect as manual removal and if you attempt it in your display you’ll likely lose some of the animals in the tank before getting your tweezers out. Just my opinion from my experience.
There no shortage of techniques with removing these guys or different ways to go about it. Plenty of other info can be found googling around, but make sure you trust and understand any advice you take. They are a big problem and one of many good reasons to run a QT tank. Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Taking care of thank you gor. since when I tried to get the with tweezers they just went into the tubes I stuck em with a pin and the tube is no longer and either are they
Its not a nudibranch, it is a polycheate. I had several of them, tell tale signs, its in a tube… and you can see it has cast a “web” to catch food. I had that exact species and just fishes for food and had a tube cover much like a snail.
The thin lines of spider like web going from the montipora to the side of the picture to the left. Mine would have a web that stretched out some 6 inches and I would see him catch fish food and slowly “reel” it in one bite at a time.
Here is kind of a bad pic of my old one… it died. You can see the tube running up straight through the pavona and just out of picture is the head and you can see the “net” going left into the rock. Once I moved it out into the open that net went out some 6".
I dipped my kryptonite candy cane I got from the swap and i noticed one of these pulling in its web yesterday…I remember seeing them in Dr. Shimeks pocket guide but I dont remember a lot about them.
I still can’t tell from the pic, I’m not sold on the worm. It looks similar to the head of a nudibranch to me, the web may not be related. Vermitid (harmless) snails also create the snot spider web to catch food.
I made up a dip of Iodide tincture to get rid of montipora eating nudibranchs before. It will only kill the live nudis and not the eggs so repetitive dip(s) are necessary usually a week later. Your best bet would be to do a dip every week for 4 weeks to be double sure. You could also use a commercial dip, but I don’t have any experience with those.
I spent a few minutes looking it up, and it definitely looks more like a vermetid snail that I had before. I always thought they stayed really small but I was wrong.
This is exactly what I had but It stayed against the coral rather than growing out. And why the head may look more like a slug/snail.
If it is a vermetid, they are stationary and live in a tube with a tube covering that they carry on their head, they aren’t harmful. There are small (1/8 - 1/4") and large up to maybe an inch ones. The biggest annoyance I found with them was their spider webs, but if you keep the nutrients and floating particulate down they shouldn’t become a pest IMO.
If it is a vermetid, they are stationary and live in a tube with a tube covering that they carry on their head, they aren’t harmful. There are small (1/8 - 1/4") and large up to maybe an inch ones. The biggest annoyance I found with them was their spider webs, but if you keep the nutrients and floating particulate down they shouldn’t become a pest IMO.
If you’re unsure a dip can’t hurt![/quote]
That head looks identical to the one I had and it was tube dwelling, if you look closely at the monti you can actually see the side of the tube on it.
It did have a tube body. When I went to try and pull it out with tweezers it just sucked all the way into it. If the tube was straight it would be around 1 1/2" and the second one would have been about a 1/2". They also did throw out something close to the web and pulled it in to feed on it. I stuck a pin in the tubes hole and ripped it open one end to the other so there was no chancing it would recess all the way in and somehow live.
The only corals I had a problem with a ton of bristle worms a deffinate 1/4-1/2" nudi and these tubes was from Coral Mania.
I would like to frag the superman and get rid of the tubes completely… Just such a tough decision as to what rock to put them on or just disc them till I get the new tank and cycle it. I would say within the next 6 months give or take…
JustSumGuy, odds are very slim you will have a tubeless tank. I’ve never met an animal that creates tubes like that which will become a problem in a healthy tank. No need to remove them unless you think it really takes away form the appearance of the coral and if that coral is healthy and the worm is dead the coral will overgrow the tube anyways.(in a healthy tank that is)
“I spent a few minutes looking it up, and it definitely looks more like a vermetid snail that I had before. I always thought they stayed really small but I was wrong.”
Tim your wrong about being wrong… if that makes sense. If you want to really figure out what it is you have take a look at is what the name is you have found really is. King Philip Came Over For Good Sex. Keep Pouring Coffee Or Forget Getting Sober. Kingdom Phylum Class Order Family Genus Species. If you find out the name you have found is a family then more then likely there is more the one species and you have a pretty rough ID. Your statement saying that you always thought “Vermatid”(or an animal in the family Vermetidae) stayed really small is analogous to someone stating they had no idea tangs go so large after seeing a 3’ unicorn tang and then wondering if their mimic tang will get that big for their 6’ tank. Snails of the same family could range from herbivorous to predatory. Same with fish.
In my experience rock that comes from the Caribbean often contains larger species of vermatids such as the large one you pictured or the ones Paul Moliken was trying to get an ID on last summer. The smaller species seem to be more common in the hobby and seem to be 100X as prolific in the average reef tank.
One way to get rid of these is just put a drop of superglue gel over the opening. I had a few and most are now gone I see a few new ones popping up. Will do again this weekend when doing maintainence.