I have no fish in there yet. Just a star fish, a green crab and a few snails. Should I add fish first??
:GEEK: abcd…
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I have had the (75 gallon) tank running for 2 months now. Yesterday I added 4 damsils to cycle. Also, I have a green crab in there, 6 turbo snails and 4 other snails (I forget the name of em but they are white and the kind that can’t flip them selves over). And a sand sifting star. I’d like to later have a powder blue tang, yellow tang, 2 or 4 clown (ocelliellus…probably spelled all wrong) and a stawberry dottie back. I LOVE bubble corals so I know I definately want one of those and maybe a polyp and a few mushrooms. There is another one I like but I forget the name of it…hey I am a newbie :GEEK:
Lights; I have two (dual) 10,000k 65 watt coralife lights and two dual 65k actinic lights. No power heads yet, no skimmer yet.
… When I checked last night salinity was 23, nitrate 0ppm, ammonia 0ppm, nitrite 0ppm, and ph 8.0
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here are some questions
how old is the tank
what kind of coral do u want
what kind of flow do you have
how big is the tank
what other fish are u gunna get
what are your pars(salt,amm,nitrate,etc)
Well BZ has hit on some of the questions. We really can’t offer advice or opinions without knowing a few things, like age of set-up, kind of lights (metal halide, T5s, PCs), what type of coral you’d like to grow etc.
Take a minute and tell us a little about your set-up and we’ll be more able to offer our suggestions.
[quote=“lagoler, post:1, topic:1293”]
NEW TO IT ALL! lOl[/quote]
I have no fish in there yet. Just a star fish, a green crab and a few snails. Should I add fish first??
:GEEK: abcd…
REVISED*
I have had the (75 gallon) tank running for 2 months now. Yesterday I added 4 damsils to cycle. Also, I have a green crab in there, 6 turbo snails and 4 other snails (I forget the name of em but they are white and the kind that can’t flip them selves over). And a sand sifting star. I’d like to later have a powder blue tang, yellow tang, 2 or 4 clown (ocelliellus…probably spelled all wrong) and a stawberry dottie back. I LOVE bubble corals so I know I definately want one of those and maybe a polyp and a few mushrooms. There is another one I like but I forget the name of it…hey I am a newbie :GEEK:
Lights; I have two (dual) 10,000k 65 watt coralife lights and two dual 65k actinic lights. No power heads yet, no skimmer yet.
… When I checked last night salinity was 23, nitrate 0ppm, ammonia 0ppm, nitrite 0ppm, and ph 8.0
I dont think two tangs, a couple clowns and a dotty back is a lot of fish for a 75. perhaps not all on the same day. How should he stock them. I forget. the little docile ones first, or the bigger teritorial tangs first? hep me out here, someone? the load is not high. but adding and stocking fish is a sequential science. so as they adjust to each other with the least stress.
I agree - and speak from experience - the damsels in the long run will be bad. I had to tear down a whole set-up to remove 3 territorial damsels because they decided to pick on my purple tang.
But you your original question - we still need to know actual salinity and/or specific gravity should be around 1.025 and 35/36 respectively.
The numbers you gave for the lights are the spectrum of light not the intensity. Are they metal halide, T5, Normal florescent, compact florescent?
Have you seen your ammonia go up and back down yet?
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I dont think two tangs, a couple clowns and a dotty back is a lot of fish for a 75. perhaps not all on the same day. How should he stock them. I forget. the little docile ones first, or the bigger teritorial tangs first? hep me out here, someone? the load is not high. but adding and stocking fish is a sequential science. so as they adjust to each other with the least stress. [/quote]
+1 The tangs might be an issue with the overall swimming space and will out grow the tank eventually or at least one will have to go because they will get aggressive.
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I agree - and speak from experience - the damsels in the long run will be bad. I had to tear down a whole set-up to remove 3 territorial damsels because they decided to pick on my purple tang.[/quote]
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Ken - docile fish first, aggressive fish later
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May be wrong but. I’d stock the Powder blue tang, the clowns, the yellow tang, then the strawberry dotty back. I hear yellow tangs are aggressive, so I would put in the blue first so he has ‘my tank first’ status. Clowns are pretty friendly unless they get an anemone, so the sooner the better for them, they are pretty hardy as well.
I’ve had experience with the strawberry dotty back being a big bully and my tank was MUCH happier after removing him, I think Icy has also had experience with the strawberry doing the same, but only aggression towards wrasse type bodies (longish), whereas mine was just a pester to everything.
And to answer you question lagoler. I would get a powerhead or two in there, and you could be fine with adding an easy frag with low light requirements. Your lights should be fine for something with low light requirements, the higher you put the frag, the more usable light it will receive.
I have been doing a lot of research on this… if you plan on keeping the fish long term keep away from the powder blue tang. They can get up to 24" long, and need a tank that is a MINIMUM of 5x their body length so that they can swim and not be stressed out. That would mean a 10’ tank for a fully grown powder blue.
And before anyone asks, no fish do not just grow to the size tank that they are in. They will grow to the maximum size they can in the tank and then DIE from stress and/or disease.
yes i would start with low light frags. mushrooms and the such. i have frags of sea cabbage that will grow in any light> pc, flourecent , t5 . they are 5 dollars each if you would like to try it. grows fast and is very hardy. just ask around i think just about every member has a frag lOl picture included of colony at a young age
[quote=“icy1155, post:11, topic:1293”]
I have been doing a lot of research on this… if you plan on keeping the fish long term keep away from the powder blue tang. They can get up to 24" long, and need a tank that is a MINIMUM of 5x their body length so that they can swim and not be stressed out. That would mean a 10’ tank for a fully grown powder blue.
And before anyone asks, no fish do not just grow to the size tank that they are in. They will grow to the maximum size they can in the tank and then DIE from stress and/or disease. [/quote]
This is true my hippo tang grew to 7" in a 75-gallon in 2 years. At first everything was peachy. She got along with everybody including the yellow tang. Then she started to show signs of becoming territorial. She started chasing other fish and eventually killed a coral beauty and a flame angel.
So I will clarify what I said earlier: Too large a fish for a 75-gallon long term.
4 damsils - very territorial
powder blue tang - Gets very large very quickly - When they are young a 75g is fine but 2 years down the road they will outgrow the 75-gallon
yellow tang - Awesome tang highly recommend - one of the easiest tangs to care for
2 or 4 clown - Never a fan of more then 2 of the same clown in a tank. When small no problem as they mature…not so good
stawberry dottie back - Nice fish
