Wow didn’t realize we had a third page on this hijack thread already. I too really have to get my act together and post some pics of my herps. I never got hard core into them as the aquatic animals took over my life, but I loved the ones I have/had and have always tried to take good care of them.
yeah, the frogs are next. hopefully i will start after i get the 265g cycling. im going to probably build 3 or 4 vertical vivariums all at once to make things easier. Hopefully they will turn out similar to this
ill use the same method i did to make the live plant wall in my RES tank. the only thing i cant decide is if i want to build a DIY mister or buy one. since i ran cold water to the reptile room im thinking i might be able to use the water pressure via a saddle valve in lieu of a pump and just purchase some quality nozzles. ill probably build on 20L for a handful of RETFs and 10g’s for the dartfrogs. i also really want to get one of the vietnamese moss frogs but im undecided.
I’m so jealous. If I brought up purchasing another animal at this point I’d be sleeping on the couch for a week or worse!
Any idea where you are going to get the frogs? I once talked to one of the employees at TPP that bread some of them. I’ve heard just about everyone’s opinions on their dry good prices and the fish room, what do you guys think of their reptile room?
Shawn where is that thread with images of your turtle tank?
If I brought up purchasing another animal at this point I'd be sleeping on the couch for a week or worse!
Maybe thats why im only 31 but have two ex-wifes?
Any idea where you are going to get the frogs? I once talked to one of the employees at TPP that bread some of them. I've heard just about everyone’s opinions on their dry good prices and the fish room, what do you guys think of their reptile room?
The herps at TPP always look healthy but they are on the expensive side. I went to lancaster to get my beardie from a breeder that sells to TPP. I paid $20 for mine and TPP was selling them at the same time for $90. I will try to find a local breeder or go to a show first, worst case i will buy from a breeder online when the temps are cooler in the fall.
Shawn where is that thread with images of your turtle tank?no idea.
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Wow didn’t realize we had a third page on this hijack thread already. I too really have to get my act together and post some pics of my herps. I never got hard core into them as the aquatic animals took over my life, but I loved the ones I have/had and have always tried to take good care of them. [/quote]
If this keeps up we will need to add a herp forum.
If this keeps up we will need to add a herp forum.
+1 I think herps go hand in hand with marine animals as far as interests go. I would be interested in the results of a poll to see how many members keep, have kept, or are interested in keeping herps. It cant get less traffic than the FW forum can it? >LOL< j/k
Maybe you guys can do exactly the same thing. A general herp forum with Joe as a mod kind of like marty with the FW?
I know i would use just to pester the crap out of joe with all my noob questions!
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…because of my experience with balls…[/quote]
Lol let’s take this out of context
It would be no big deal to add the section even if it did not see a lot of use
I shot the supreme leader a PM, but no luck.
Maybe a poll, or better yet, people can just drop a line in this thread if they would be interested. Off hand, i know the following people keep herps.
Gordo
Jocephus
Ponies
Xwhatmeworry
Bz
longballz(i think?)
and a couple of others that i cant recall at the moment.
I’ll put my vote in that I’d be interested to see a reptiles (herps?) forum. Interesting reads and those frogs are awesome.
I do not keep them but followed the thread out of interest. I would like to see it.
herps?
herp is just short for herpatology…study of reptiles and amphibians. just a more correct term to use if your talking about both animals(i.e, frogs and snakes).
i remember when i was a little kid, if any adult asked me what i wanted to be when i grew up i would always say a herpatologist ;D no one ever knew what i meant and probably thought i was a rather bizarre little kid. i thought for sure thats what i would be for the better part of my childhood.
Still a kid …just the toys cost more
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herps?
herp is just short for herpatology…study of reptiles and amphibians. just a more correct term to use if your talking about both animals(i.e, frogs and snakes).
i remember when i was a little kid, if any adult asked me what i wanted to be when i grew up i would always say a herpatologist ;D no one ever knew what i meant and probably thought i was a rather bizarre little kid. i thought for sure thats what i would be for the better part of my childhood.[/quote]
Ahh it comes clearer now…
I can only imagine what those folks thought when you said that lol
I think I might be interested in keeping some of those exotic, cool looking (and probably horribly poisonous) frogs.
poison dart frogs(PDF) arent poisonous in captivity for some reason. there are a bunch of theories as to why, but im not sure that any are proven.
my son and i should have our first frogs by the end of the summer. there are 2 or 3 PDFs we want to keep as well as a mantella, RETFs, and possibly that mossy.
It’s generally accepted that dart frogs in captivity don’t have the toxins due to a difference in diet. The frogs in the wild consume large quantities of fire ants.
Logansdaddy, there are a few dart’s that you might be able to get away with housing with the RETF (bumblebees come to mind), most have different temp/humidity requirements. I think I have a book on dart frogs here somewhere in the archives if you’re interested. I will say that when I attempted to keep big eye tree frogs, they were visible around 1% of the time I had them. I think you’ll have better luck with the RETF’s and moss frogs. Never kept the moss frogs but I’ve read many articles that say their very hardy. They had a cool display with them in at the Baltimore Aquarium.
It's generally accepted that dart frogs in captivity don't have the toxins due to a difference in dietThats the most common thing i have heard, but i think its far from proven. My best impression from reading from more scholarly sources is that its probably a combinatin of mutiple factors including diet.
Im going to start with some of the more hardy and bold PDFs. The bumblebee happens to be one of my favorites.
They had a cool display with them in at the Baltimore Aquarium.My son and i saw the disply as well. I think it was called chorus of colors...or something like that. Very cool. The frog exhibit was supposed to be replaced by a jellyfish exhibit that im sure is installed by now. Were going to go this summer to check it out.
The most amazing display ive seen by far is keeping emerald tree boas with PDF’s. I think the article i read also had a giant day gecko in the mix as well. Apparently, the natural conditions are similar enough that the can be simulated in a large enough enclosure and the ETB will ignore the PDFs as they are not part of its natural diet(assuming the ETB is well fed i would imagine). I dont have the balls to try something like that considering i have no experience keeping either animals, but it is something i would try with more experience.
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The most amazing display ive seen by far is keeping emerald tree boas with PDF’s.[/quote]
That’s what jams a lot of people up with Emerald Tree Boas, the humidity tends to let a cage stagnate quickly and fungus is a concern. But yes, that would be an awesome setup.
Bumblebees are one of my favs as well.
That's what jams a lot of people up with Emerald Tree Boas, the humidity tends to let a cage stagnate quickly and fungus is a concern.
i think thats a common problem with most wet vivariums. i will use an auto-mister in conjunction with a DIY ventilation system to control humidity. i also like the idea of setting up a self-sustaining habitat that requires little maintenance. it seems that a lot of people have luck by keeping a springtail population in their vivs. im going to use organic topsoil as my substrate with leaf liter on top for asthetics. also, instead of using the eggcrate/clay ball method im going to install a bulkhead to allow my tanks to completely drain so there will not be any standing water. im sure its going to be a little trial and error, but ill figure it out. im going to let the habitats run for a couple of months to dial them in before purchasing any animals.