Are Current Fishing Regulations Misguided?

Are Current Fishing Regulations Misguided?
Selectively harvesting fish by species, size, gender or other traits can knock an ecosystem out of balance, according to a new analysis

By John Matson

The oceans are in trouble—overfishing has led to depletion of fish stocks around the world and has driven many species to critically endangered status. But what to do about it?

Officials have responded to the collapse of fishery stocks with a slew of regulations, many of them forcing fishing operators to be more selective in their harvest, whether by targeting certain species and regional populations, by mandating size or gender restrictions on catches, or by defining open and closed seasons for fishing. For instance, U.S. commercial fishing regulations set minimum-size limits on red snapper and many species of Atlantic tuna. But a perspective paper set to be published online this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences argues that such “selective fishing” practices can have unintended consequences. By targeting specific segments of the sea for removal, the authors contend, regulations intended to preserve fish populations can instead nudge a delicate ecosystem out of balance.

Lead study author Shijie Zhou of Australia’s Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization and his colleagues advocate an alternative approach to fisheries management that they call, perhaps somewhat unappealingly, “balanced exploitation.” Using their concept, all fish—regardless of species, size or gender—would be fished in proportion to their abundance and replenishment rate, thereby better preserving the makeup of the ecosystem. Less selective fishing practices would remove a representative slice of the ecosystem while keeping populations above a certain threshold.

“Simply speaking, a balanced exploitation aims to maintain, to the extent possible, natural ecosystem structure to support sustainable fisheries and conserve biodiversity,” Zhou says. He adds that the concept seeks to balance relationships both among different species and among subpopulations of a given species such as age groups, gender groups or regional schools. Recent research indicates that selectively targeting subsets of a species can drive unwanted population shifts—say, drastically reducing the number of males relative to females—or even genetic and behavioral changes. Setting a minimum catch size, for instance, applies selection pressure that may unnaturally favor smaller individuals, thereby driving down the size of the species over generations. Similarly, the establishment of legal fishing seasons can affect the timing of salmon runs by selectively killing late or early migrants.

A potentially thorny outcome of fishing a broader range of species is that, in addition to catching high-value species such as salmon, fishing operators would also pull up numerous low-value fish, known as bycatch, that would otherwise be avoided or caught inadvertently and tossed back. Not so under balanced exploitation, wherein species would be harvested according to the carrying capacity of their population rather than their value to consumers. “This concept still supports avoiding bycatch of vulnerable or protected species,” Zhou says. But avoiding all bycatch is unnecessary, he adds, and may even be counterproductive from a biodiversity standpoint.

The key would be to develop uses for bycatch species so the harvest would not go to waste. Marie-Joëlle Rochet, a fisheries scientist at the French Research Institute for Exploitation of the Sea who did not contribute to the new research, says that incentives might be more effective than regulations in encouraging less selective fishing. “Probably an important part of the approach would be to develop markets for small things and species you would not judge edible nowadays,” she says. Zhou adds that fish need not be suitable for sushi or fish sticks to be of value: other uses include fish oil as well as feed for livestock or even for fish farms cultivating more desirable species.

Rochet has run theoretical models on the effects of fishing practices and has indeed found that selective fishing can negatively impact biodiversity and create ripples in the food web as the balance between predator and prey is upset. “However, this is only theory and needs to be substantiated with empirical analyses,” she says.

Jim Scott, assistant director of the fish program for the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife in Olympia, says that the paper by Zhou and his colleagues raises some good points. “It’s important for every person with fisheries management responsibility to understand” the potential concerns about selective fishing, Scott says. “It isn’t a panacea,” he adds. “You have to be really thoughtful about how you approach it.” For instance, he says, gender restrictions on Dungeness crab have led to very high harvest rates among males of the species and may need to be rethought.

At the same time, Scott adds, some ecosystems are already so far out of balance that selectivity is necessary just to stave off total collapse of certain species. “In Washington, we have many species that are either listed under the Endangered Species Act or designated as overfished,” he says. “So the idea of moving away from less selective fishing strategies in an environment like Washington—it’s not readily apparent to me how we would do that.”

Even in more stable fishery environments, Zhou acknowledges that it is “very difficult if not impossible” to design and implement a perfectly balanced exploitation strategy. “We suggest balanced exploitation as an ideal,” he says, “and a new approach to consider while scientists and managers critically review the current fishing philosophy that points in the opposite direction.”

I understand the premise of the argument, but to think that you could take the fish in ratio with other fish is a bit tough. What about the lesser animals that some of these predator species control? For instance if you take marlin, tuna and sea bass in accordance to the level sustainable by the environment, maybe anchovies go crazy without predation and impact the waters negatively.

Well, I belive that under this kind of managment practice we would be taking more of the low level stuff such as anchovies, and less of the apex predators, because there is a larger biomass of the smaller species than the larger.

I believe you are correct. What about the holes in the food web created above and below them? At some point (maybe at anchovies maybe elsewhere) we get to a food source that is not needed/wanted by the commercial market. That’s what I was trying to say before.

we are actually altering the natural selection process by selecting the most capibile memebers of a perspective species; this is clearly detrimental to any species. in nature the most fit members or a species would be able to desseminate their genes, by fishing out the larger healthier species were are upsetting that balance. there was an article in national geographic a few months ago regarding this issue, examples of the decrease in size of game fish over the past 50 years is greatly apparent.

[quote=“Jocephus, post:2, topic:2918”]
I understand the premise of the argument, but to think that you could take the fish in ratio with other fish is a bit tough. What about the lesser animals that some of these predator species control? For instance if you take marlin, tuna and sea bass in accordance to the level sustainable by the environment, maybe anchovies go crazy without predation and impact the waters negatively.[/quote]

you have to take into consideration that in nature the healthiest and largest of a species aren’t preyed upon; it’s the sick or unfit of the species which are consumed. fishing out the largest and healtiest of a species flips this process upside down which is the problem; that’s not even factoring in the trophic dynamics being upset hence the possible increase of lower level species. in generall the over abundance of these base species isn’t as bad as removing species higher up within the foodchain.

[quote=“andrewk529, post:6, topic:2918”]
fishing out the largest and healtiest of a species flips this process upside down which is the problem; that’s not even factoring in the trophic dynamics being upset hence the possible increase of lower level species. in generall the over abundance of these base species isn’t as bad as removing species higher up within the foodchain.[/quote]

There is an argument to be made that the largest and healthiest fish have already dispersed their genetic material.

And is your feeling that the over abundance of base species is not as bad based on anything? Or just an instinct? I can not imagine that overpopulations would self regulate (reach their revised bio-limitation) in a time frame that corresponds to the fishing seasons. What do you think?

well it’s simple ecological logic; food pyramids or trophic pyramids are just that, stong at the base and narrow at the top, if you take a block or species from the lower levels the top will collapse. contrast this with removing a species from the top and the number of effected species are limited,that’s not to say removing the predators or higherlevel species isn’t detrimental. your wrong about the genes already being disseminated, intensive human fishing in north america has been going on for around 250 years; in that time frame we have subsantially inhibited natural selection. if you want a good picture of what the abundance and size of fish was like in north america before colonisation i would recommend reading “Cod: A Biography of the Fish That Changed the World”

“A medieval fisherman is said to have hauled up a three-foot-long cod, which was common enough at the time…”

[quote=“andrewk529, post:8, topic:2918”]
your wrong about the genes already being disseminated, intensive human fishing in north america has been going on for around 250 years; in that time frame we have subsantially inhibited natural selection.[/quote]

Are we talking generationally here? And saying your wrong doesn’t make it so, I’m from Missouri- show me.

And saying your wrong doesn't make it so, I'm from Missouri- show me.

LOL< Well im not from Missouri but im from the same school of thought! Im not referring to your comment Andrew! Just my thoughts in general. Im actually not even following this thread. It’s too :GEEK: for my tastes!!

Fishing limits are all well and good, but they ignore the largest threat to all fish species. The declining PH and alkalinity of the ocean from CO2 may very well collapse the base of the ocean food chain, Foraminefera, microscopic shell forming plankton. they are the base of the ocean food chain. one year without them and the whole food chain of fish we like to eat, collapses. the declining PH will interfere with them forming their carbonate shells.

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[quote=“andrewk529, post:8, topic:2918”]
your wrong about the genes already being disseminated, intensive human fishing in north america has been going on for around 250 years; in that time frame we have subsantially inhibited natural selection.[/quote]

Are we talking generationally here? And saying your wrong doesn’t make it so, I’m from Missouri- show me.[/quote]

it’s simple genetics,you can look up size ratios from the perspective catch averages over the years from noaa and other historical records. fish also multiply at a quicker rate, so their fillial generations can change quicker or be reduced. think about your great grandfathers genes and how they were perpetuated in your family; genes are trasmitted and dillitued or change over generations. we can observe this process in a lab with bacteria over a few weeks by marking specific nucleotides and observing the results. another anology which might help you get retain an understanding could be adding to a bacterial culture antibiotics: this would leave a small percentage of viable individuals who would be resistant to the chemical. this concept is similar to removing specific portions of a fish population through harvesting of specific phenontypes or sexes. there are also things called sex linked traits which are only passed downfrom a specific sex, this means that if you took a larger percentage of male or female fish or any organism; you would statistically be reducing the transmission of that trait.

i will pull a more recent study from a journal later tonight for you to read, hopefully oxford university holds bering in missouri hahaha

[quote=“kaptken, post:11, topic:2918”]
Fishing limits are all well and good, but they ignore the largest threat to all fish species. The declining PH and alkalinity of the ocean from CO2 may very well collapse the base of the ocean food chain, Foraminefera, microscopic shell forming plankton. they are the base of the ocean food chain. one year without them and the whole food chain of fish we like to eat, collapses. the declining PH will interfere with them forming their carbonate shells. [/quote]

i agree, i honestly doubt we will be eating much wild fish in the next 40 years with all of the compounding issues.

[quote=“andrewk529, post:12, topic:2918”]

[quote=“Jocephus, post:9, topic:2918”]

[quote=“andrewk529, post:8, topic:2918”]
your wrong about the genes already being disseminated, intensive human fishing in north america has been going on for around 250 years; in that time frame we have subsantially inhibited natural selection.[/quote]

Are we talking generationally here? And saying your wrong doesn’t make it so, I’m from Missouri- show me.[/quote]

it’s simple genetics,you can look up size ratios from the perspective catch averages over the years from noaa and other historical records. fish also multiply at a quicker rate, so their fillial generations can change quicker or be reduced. think about your great grandfathers genes and how they were perpetuated in your family; genes are trasmitted and dillitued or change over generations. we can observe this process in a lab with bacteria over a few weeks by marking specific nucleotides and observing the results. another anology which might help you get retain an understanding could be adding to a bacterial culture antibiotics: this would leave a small percentage of viable individuals who would be resistant to the chemical. this concept is similar to removing specific portions of a fish population through harvesting of specific phenontypes or sexes. there are also things called sex linked traits which are only passed downfrom a specific sex, this means that if you took a larger percentage of male or female fish or any organism; you would statistically be reducing the transmission of that trait.

i will pull a more recent study from a journal later tonight for you to read, hopefully oxford university holds bering in missouri hahaha[/quote]

Hehehe Thank you for a relatively accurate description of the process of natural selection, now where is your proof that size rates declining are as a result overfishing and not a byproduct of that same selection process. Did you go to Oxford?

did you read the abstract or introduction of the study i posted? no, i didn’t go to oxford; the scientists who created the study did, which is what i was trying to imply. it’s not simply over fishing but selective overfishing based on size and or sex which is the problem.

This part?

“Several possible explanations were suggested, but subsequent
analysis showed that a model relating species
abundance to habitat structure best explained the trends
(Sainsbury et al., 1997). The change in fish community
structure seems most likely to be related to the destruction
of large epibenthic organisms (mostly sponges,
alcyonarians, and gorgonians) by the trawl gear.”

Or this:

“We have looked at possible changes in diversity in terms
of species composition and dominance. Overall, there is
no evidence in any of the data sets analysed that fishing
has changed community structure in the direction of
lower diversity.”

I understand perfectly what you are implying. I am simply saying that the presence of fishing pressure in any form will no doubt account for smaller average sized adults. Not neccesarily due to a smaller gene pool, but rather because fish are unable to reach ages that they did before the fishing pressure. Smaller average catch size does not automatically indicate a genetic issue. By the way, I’m not from Missouri either, it is an expression (MO is the “show me state”).

Cheers,

Joe

The slope of size spectra
appears to respond in a consistent way to changes in exploitation levels. In most areas
studied, but particularly in high-latitude regions, we observe a decreasing trend in the
slope, reflecting changes in size composition toward a relative decline in larger fish. The
results from tropical regions are less conclusive, owing to the difficulty in
obtaining consistent data series, but probably also because the generally higher growth
rates of the constituent species make the slope less sensitive to changes in fishing. No
evidence was found of any decline in species richness, while changes in diversity
(richness and evenness) were caused either by changes in patterns of dominance or by
changes in the number of species identified resulting from improved survey protocols

Introduction
Fishing affects demersal fish communities through
selective removal of target species, through the bycatch
of non-target species, and through habitat modification,
resulting in changes in overall biomass, in
species composition and in size structure. The extent of
the response depends on life-history characteristics
of the individual species, trophic interactions among
species, and on the type of changes generated in the
physical habitat.
Documented changes in the structure of demersal fish
communities include Pauly (1979), Gulland and Garcia
(1984), Greenstreet and Hall (1996), Sharp and Csirke
(1984), Sainsbury et al. (1997), Haedrich and Barnes
(1997). In the Gulf of Thailand, wide-ranging changes in
the demersal fish community were linked to the rapid
expansion of the trawl fishery after 1961 (Pauly, 1988).
The changes involved a severe decrease in the abundance
of large, long-lived fish (e.g. rays) as well as of several
families of smaller fish (e.g. Leiognathidae, Gerreidae,
and Mullidae) and an increase in shrimps and squid.
1054–

i do agree there is clearly multiple factors involved with the reduction of fish size over time. most fish species utilize inderterminate growth; however, it makes sense to me and i’m sure other geneticists would concur that if you constanlty removed a select pheonotype or sex it would alter the genetic make up of a species.

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[quote=“andrewk529, post:8, topic:2918”]
your wrong about the genes already being disseminated, intensive human fishing in north america has been going on for around 250 years; in that time frame we have subsantially inhibited natural selection.[/quote]

Are we talking generationally here? And saying your wrong doesn’t make it so, I’m from Missouri- show me.[/quote]

are you sure your not from missouri? i’m well aware of the redundant state motto’s.

i do agree there is clearly multiple factors involved with the reduction of fish size over time. most fish species utilize inderterminate growth; however, it makes sense to me and i’m sure other geneticists would concur that if you constanlty removed a select pheonotype or sex it would alter the genetic make up of a species.

[quote=“andrewk529, post:18, topic:2918”]
i do agree there is clearly multiple factors involved with the reduction of fish size over time. most fish species utilize inderterminate growth; however, it makes sense to me and i’m sure other geneticists would concur that if you constanlty removed a select pheonotype or sex it would alter the genetic make up of a species.[/quote]

This is true enough, but if fish are indeterminate in growth, it really isn’t a phenotype. It is less a genetic trait, and more a feature of the class. We know I’m not from Missouri, are you a geneticist?