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But, you know whats worse than recreational fishing?[/quote]
Commercial fisheries. If commercial fishermen take out one ton of fish and generate X number of dollars for conservation, recreational fishermen will generally generate about 19X number of dollars taking the same amount of fish as a result of taxes. And all of that tax money from hunting and fishing goes back into the environment. Do you know how our country can afford to have state parks? Recreational fishers and hunters. The money we pay allows the government to conserve the species that are left, unlike commercial fisheries.
;D Absolutely agree. I also dont purchase or consume fish of any kind. People that think "farm-raised" fish is better than wild caught would be surprised to know the truth.
Do you know how our country can afford to have state parks?
We could do so without hunting and fishing im sure! Last time i checked every state park in DE requires you to pay for admission and im willing to bet that 90% of those that use the state parks arent hunting or fishing.
However, i wont start anything because i happen to have nothing against either one. If managed properly and done responsibly i know that hunting is actually beneficial for keeping wildlife populations in balance. Personally, i cant kill a bug let alone a mammal but i dont have anything against responsible hunters. Fishing, on the other hand, is less about the actual act and more about the damage that boats do to the waters and associated ecosystems. Granted, im sure recreational fisherman only account for a small percentage of watercrafet compared to commercial fisherman and other boats used for other watersports. I think the reputation of hunters/fisherman in general are marred by a small percentage of people that exploit, pillage, and destroy for entertainment and dont really believe the bulk of the population is anything but lawful and responsible. With that said, neither one is my cup of tea! ;D
shawn i hope your a vegan! i think it’s completely hypocritical for anyone to associate cruelty to fishing or hunting if you eat meat. i’ve been to a chicken processing plant before, and i tell you that i would rather be dispatched with a whack on the head then sprayed with water and electrocuted. cattle are herded in feces through troughs where the smell of blood and sounds of death await. again, i would rather be shot in a vital region compared to having my throat slit to bleed out. i have a great understanding and respect of where my food comes from. unfortunately there are some idiots out there who give fishing and hunting a bad name. i for one have been on party boats where drunk red-neck types were catching sharks and smashing the fish on the side of the boat for fun, something which utterly disgusted me. hunting is important to maintain species, there are no large mammalian predators anymore, we’ve killed them all. it is a necessity to cull certain species presently considering the destruction of the many ecosystems and reduction of natural predators. lyme disease for instance wasn’t noticed until about 20 years ago. this “new” bacteria started infecting humans when the dear populations exploded. if the eastern forests were intact, white tail dear which were basically instinct by the 1900’s would never have exploded to there present day populations. it does sadden me to see many fisherman leaving trash everywhere but walk in a city for 5 minutes and you will see the same situation. it’s a broad lack of respect for the environment by a large segment of our population which is the problem. :TWOCENTS
it’s a broad lack of respect for the environment by a large segment of our population which is the problem.
it is a necessity to cull certain species presently considering the destruction of the many ecosystems and reduction of natural predators
and another
it does sadden me to see many fisherman leaving trash everywhere but walk in a city for 5 minutes and you will see the same situation.
i agree. however, littering in the city does not have the same impact as littering in the wild(forests, waterways, oceans, etc). not that i condone littering on any level or think that urban waste does not impact the environment through sewer systems/waterways/etc, i just think one is a little worse than the other.
it's a broad lack of respect for the environment by a large segment of our population which is the problem.
+1
Andrew, buddy, i really dont get your post or first comment ;D Most of the points were the same as my own(maybe more elaborate :P) and i couldnt agree with you more. I literally share your opinion as it relates to every point you made and have thought this way for a very long time. There was a similar discussion last summer in Pauls BBQ thread. Im an animal lover through and through and cant even imagine killing an animal yet fully realize what it means to consume animal meat in this day and age. It may very well be hyporitical but until they figure out how to grow cheeseburgers on trees im not changing. There is just no way i could keep this girlish figure on a diet of vegetables alone!
[quote=“logans_daddy, post:44, topic:2750”]
it’s a broad lack of respect for the environment by a large segment of our population which is the problem.
it is a necessity to cull certain species presently considering the destruction of the many ecosystems and reduction of natural predators
and another
it does sadden me to see many fisherman leaving trash everywhere but walk in a city for 5 minutes and you will see the same situation.
i agree. however, littering in the city does not have the same impact as littering in the wild(forests, waterways, oceans, etc). not that i condone littering on any level or think that urban waste does not impact the environment through sewer systems/waterways/etc, i just think one is a little worse than the other.
it's a broad lack of respect for the environment by a large segment of our population which is the problem.
+1
Andrew, buddy, i really dont get your post or first comment ;D Most of the points were the same as my own(maybe more elaborate :P) and i couldnt agree with you more. I literally share your opinion as it relates to every point you made and have thought this way for a very long time. There was a similar discussion last summer in Pauls BBQ thread. Im an animal lover through and through and cant even imagine killing an animal yet fully realize what it means to consume animal meat in this day and age. It may very well be hyporitical but until they figure out how to grow cheeseburgers on trees im not changing. There is just no way i could keep this girlish figure on a diet of vegetables alone![/quote]
haha you can always start eating veggie burgers! i agree with your post too, just wanted to express my similar opinion and experiences regarding this topic. as a hunter/fisherman i just like to highlight certain juxtapositions on our food ideologies. needless to say i’m making homemade meatballs tonight for dinner yum! also want to note that all of that trash and litter eventually makes it ways into our rivers/oceans. the rain runoff in delaware isn’t treated and goes right into the delaware bay.