hey all, so i came across this today on uncrate. its an infinity edge tank, meaning overflowing. its pretty sweet. check it out here http://www.zeroedgeaquarium.com/ pretty sure they are relativily new. it would def take care of surface skimming and overflow.
If you want to see one in person check out Dr. Macs store. He has one there.
I think once the gimic wears off… it leaves you with some really obvious disadvantages.
You’re now dealing with algae on both sides of the glass.
You will have salt spray/splash like you have never imagined.
Evaporation will be increased significantly.
Every bit of dust, debris and bug will end up in your tank.
New challenges and restrictions for attaching lighting/hardware and their power supplies.
That’s just a few off the top of my head. These builds have been around for awhile and I was never too enthusiastic about the idea. They’re great for when you need to catch someone’s eye like a display booth at MACNA, just not long term IMO.
my worry is that as beautiful as they look, one scratch from a coral or a scrub and the all round near invisible flow is interrupted and it will look crappy.
shawn, the one at dr macs had no spray or splash, and it was tremendously stunning, but i wouldn’t want one simply b/c of the issues mentioned and others not thought of like airborne fish, snails and hermits, maybe nems, climbing out
[quote=“moliken, post:4, topic:2338”]
my worry is that as beautiful as they look, one scratch from a coral or a scrub and the all round near invisible flow is interrupted and it will look crappy.
shawn, the one at dr macs had no spray or splash, and it was tremendously stunning, but i wouldn’t want one simply b/c of the issues mentioned and others not thought of like airborne fish, snails and hermits, maybe nems, climbing out[/quote]
Well, without ever having seen his tank…
Is it a 4" deep frag tank for display or an 18"+ deep display tank? The height is obviously what effects the amount of splash and spray. I bring this up because I followed some guys build and he ended up having to build a 2 foot tall acrylic backing to keep the salt from eating through his wall.
I would say somewhere within the 16-18" tall range.
Um… you guys should come to Armco on Saturday. 
that little 15 gal or so tank at dr macs… retails for around 1100 bux. thought about carrying them at the bowl, til i saw the tag on em. and the manufacturer requires u to have one for display. verdict_in
that little 15 gal or so tank at dr macs… retails for around 1100 bux. thought about carrying them at the bowl, til i saw the tag on em. and the manufacturer requires u to have one for display.
yikes bj, that’s a bit demanding!
[quote=“Gordonious, post:7, topic:2338”]
Um… you guys should come to Armco on Saturday. ;-)[/quote]
sweet. you’re raffling off an infinity edge aquarium. I knew it.
this is legally binding.
Heres pics from the one at Dr Mac’s Very cool tank wierd how it works but pretty neat none the less.
what could possibly have to do with zero edge at armco, now im excited…
[quote=“Gordonious, post:7, topic:2338”]
Um… you guys should come to Armco on Saturday. ;-)[/quote]
its not nice to play with our heads there jon. how ya going to say that then just CLAM up.
they prolly have one on display there…
[quote=“martinfaimly, post:13, topic:2338”]
[quote=“Gordonious, post:7, topic:2338”]
Um… you guys should come to Armco on Saturday. ;-)[/quote]
its not nice to play with our heads there jon. how ya going to say that then just CLAM up.[/quote]
Suspense is a good thing Glenn!! YahoO It’s less then 2 days away ;D
It has nothing to do with Clam’s. This meeting is not just Chris and Paul.
[quote=“Marchingbandjs, post:12, topic:2338”]
what could possibly have to do with zero edge at armco, now im excited…[/quote]
hmm wonder what the 2 could have in common…your giving them away to new members, door prize perhaps???
highly improbable but a guy can dream cant he lol
I wonder how snails like it, you know they are going to want to go over the edge and down the outside of the tank, causing some odd overflowing.
I wonder what the sump is like underneath, your going to have to fish snails out from it all the time.
I feel I should make some comments as I’m likely the only one here who has worked on one extensively.
[quote=“RCA, post:3, topic:2338”]
I think once the gimic wears off… it leaves you with some really obvious disadvantages.
You’re now dealing with algae on both sides of the glass.[/quote]
Totally worth it. If you ever think about buying a tank twice as large as your current one just stop yourself… you’ll be cleaning twice as much!
[quote=“RCA, post:3, topic:2338”]
You will have salt spray/splash like you have never imagined. [/quote]
Actually have less salt spray. Think of all that salt spray on the rim of your tank… find the rim on a “zero edgeâ€ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ. These tanks have less salt creep then any of the other tanks I have ever worked on.(I’ve worked on hundreds)
[quote=“RCA, post:3, topic:2338”]
Every bit of dust, debris and bug will end up in your tank.[/quote]
It’s called ATO, these builds or DIYS projects have been around for awhile.
[quote=“RCA, post:3, topic:2338”]
Every bit of dust, debris and bug will end up in your tank.[/quote]
Could be true, but I have never seen a bug in a zero edge. Regardless I’ve never seen or heard of it being an issue.
[quote=“RCA, post:3, topic:2338”]
New challenges and restrictions for attaching lighting/hardware and their power supplies.[/quote]
Real reef keepers love a challenge. How many of use have tried sun coral? How hasn’t wanted to keep an elegance coral or a long tentacle plate? Isn’t that one of the many drives for us to get SPS? Frankly the most discussed and popular topics on the hobby are typically the challenging.
[quote=“RCA, post:3, topic:2338”]
They’re great for when you need to catch someone’s eye like a display booth at MACNA, just not long term IMO.[/quote]
Is the last thing you want your aquarium to do is be eye catching?
[quote=“moliken, post:4, topic:2338”]
my worry is that as beautiful as they look, one scratch from a coral or a scrub and the all round near invisible flow is interrupted and it will look crappy.[/quote]
Is something you would need to be careful of, but that being said one of our clients who has a zero edge has had his tank “rescapedâ€ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ(rock scape redone) many times and it still looks beautiful. This was one of my biggest concerns with them, but the more I work with them the less I worry.
[quote=“moliken, post:4, topic:2338”]
others not thought of like airborne fish, snails and hermits, maybe nems, climbing out[/quote]
The walls are too slick for hermits to climb. The same client aforementioned has three anemones in his tank, none have ever gone over.(and as far as anemones go what about your overflow box or power heads, they could die any number of ways in a classic reef tank) Fish on the other hand is an issue just like any other open top aquarium.
[quote=“RCA, post:10, topic:2338”]
sweet. you’re raffling off an infinity edge aquarium. I knew it.
this is legally binding. ;)[/quote]
I thought you were
[quote=“RCA, post:3, topic:2338”]
never too enthusiastic about the idea.[/quote]
[quote=“Nemmy, post:18, topic:2338”]
I wonder how snails like it, you know they are going to want to go over the edge and down the outside of the tank, causing some odd overflowing.
I wonder what the sump is like underneath, your going to have to fish snails out from it all the time.[/quote]
Snails are not a big problem at all. If they were to make it outside they would just hang out in the moat around the outside of the tank.(unlike in a standard aquarium where either a dog or cat would eat them or they would just dry up and leave a pleasant smell) They would never reach the sump as there are sponges on the drains in the moat.
Oh and I have to say I am sorry we will not be giving away any zero edge aquariums. Armco is doing pretty well these days however we are not doing well enough to start handing out these bad boys. Besides I would have been the first in line and you would have already seen a new tank build thread from me, lol. Everyone will have to come out Saturday to see what I am talking about.