No problem at all Jared. I tend to be a lurker on here and no one new knows who i am. Lol. Things are going well. Going to start re-working my system soon and getting it back on point. Just let me know when you are ready for the vinyl and I will get up there one night after work or on a day off.
It’s gonna look great when its all covered in coraline…and that never takes long in your systems!
Will be interesting to see coraline growth rates this time around as it won’t be like his previous tanks. He has something planned a little different for lighting. Light will be pretty blue, but maybe a bit more intense. Perhaps he has talked about it on other websites and everyone has already heard about it.
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Will be interesting to see coraline growth rates this time around as it won’t be like his previous tanks. He has something planned a little different for lighting. Light will be pretty blue, but maybe a bit more intense. Perhaps he has talked about it on other websites and everyone has already heard about it. [/quote]
PURPLE UP! rolls eyes verdict_in >LOCO< lol j/k
Thanks guys!
Andy, if you have time on Saturday, I will have it drilled by 11 probably, and be able to have it done, but anytime after that will work as I am at DPA most days lol.
John and Jon, I’d love to talk to both of you about that silent overflow thing… I really liked how you did yours John, so if you have some time before Saturday, or feel like stopping over Saturday morning, let me know!
As for coralline, no worries guys lol… I will have it covered in a month or two As John hinted, I will be doing LED lighting for this tank and it will be mostly in the blue spectrum, which is really good for coralline algae and obviously coral growth, so I will keep everyone up to date on growth rates and how everything is doing as it gets set up. I am really excited to see how the corals do under these LED’s because if they do well, I will be fitting the large tank with them once we have it
Tim… Yes. Purple up! lOl
Tim and Jared, it isn’t just having calcium in the water and having blue light, but the intensity of light that matters to. People often lose coralline in the top couple of inches of their tank and blame it on the coralline drying up in the air when the water line was low during a water change. It isn’t the air or drying up it is the intensity of light above the water line when the light doesn’t have to break through the surface of the water. Keeping a very well lit aquarium can slow the growth of coralline significantly and the LEDs kept low enough are likely to be much brighter then the light Jared has used in the past. We will see.
There isn’t too many questions to be asked with the silent overflow, but you need three holes to be silent and safe. All three will sit at the same level and it really won’t work as well unless you have some kind of overflow box.(coast to coast being most ideal, but a small DIY box in the corner works) One acts as a siphon which will be able to handle all of the water going out, but you put a gate or ball valve on it to restrict it a little to send just a little bit of water down the second. The second is set up as a Durso, but the air line coming out of the top of the durso is placed so that the top of it is just above the water level in your box, so it can basically convert to a siphon. The third is a back up which has it’s inlet elbow pointed up. The back up is used often during the start up fase before the full siphon has started.
All of the set up for the safe silent overflow can be done easily once you have an over flow of some sort and three holes. I can help make tweaks and come in and talk with you after Saturday, but before and on Saturday I am booked.
Do some reading here: Silent & Fail-Safe Aquarium Overflow System | BeanAnimal's Reef
Jared, I might be able to stop by and do it on Saturday depending how the days goes. I am planning to do a lot of work on my system / fish room but after I get done, time permitting I should be able to do it. Worst case scenario I can swing by DPA on Sunday to take care of it.
Whatever you need Jared, i’d be happy to do what i can. As far as the silent overlow goes, mine works very well with a 2 pipe setup, re starts flawlessly with a power outage. That being said, whenever i do it again (to my 125, or the 180 i’m adopting) i will put 3 pipes, just to be safe, if a snail wanders into that second pipe during a power out it might get a little wet in here! And i agree with jon about this style being used with some type of overflow box, without it, i doubt there will be much surface skimming action. Did you decide about this? last time we talked about it you seemed to be leaning towards a setup similar to dpa’s tanks. And are you all setup for drilling? if you need a wooden template/sleeve to guide/ start the hole, just lmk, i can make you one quickly, or are you using a portable drill press? I’m sure you have a plan that will work out nicely, but just shout if i can be of any assistance.
btw when/ where are you doing it, i may just pop over and stare over your shoulder…lmao
Not sure how you can purchase top of the line AI LED light fixture, EcoTech Vortex, do a sweet rock scape, plan on stunning fish, and then stop by short of finishing it nicely and have peeling paint, surface scum, and a noisy overflow. I think I’ve got him talked into doing it right. Perhaps Andy and John can push him over the edge. Seriously doesn’t cost that much more to do it right.
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Sounds to me like he’s going the vinyl route - so no peeling paint. Surface scum? How come - just because he’s not going coast to coast with his overflow? Noisy overflow? I have 2 11/2 inch drains coming out of my tank and they don’t make a sound - and no durso wither.
You arguing with those voices only you can hear again Jon? ;D
How many kids do you have in your house usually? How many cats and dogs? Would you even hear a grenade going off on your front lawn? 
If you go into DPA and take a look at the tanks looking down and up you’ll find a couple with a significant amount of surface scum which often happens when you use a single stand pipe and strainer. Something I was frequently doing when I worked there was tweak the arms to get rid of surface scum, but every time you lower them to do a water change or scoop a fish you have to play with them again.
If you don’t have the right amount of flow going through and have it at the wrong angle the single pipe won’t skim the surface. Not saying he has to use coast to coast, but I have a lot of experience with 40 breeders in my basement and would never set one up again with a single hole.
Your just missing half the conversation because you have a day job outside the fish industry and aren’t hanging out at DPA enough during the day.
Yeah Craig, theres usually at least one meeting a day at DPA, as president do you plan on starting to attend? Bill works full time, and he hasn’t missed one yet…lmao
The reason you don’t have surface scum on your tank Craig is you have an overflow box put in by the people that made your tank. Jared’s tank is a 40breeder that doesn’t come with one.
Ok now Mike, longballz, is sending me PMs asking about a similar topic. Perhaps we need a different topic at the next meeting. I could set up a presentation on tank plumbing. Take a 30g tank drill a bunch of holes into it and set up a lot of different styles of plumbing, stand pipes and what not.
That’s a cool idea Jon, if it’s not something that can be actually done at the meeting, then maybe do it somewhere and video the results.
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The reason you don’t have surface scum on your tank Craig is you have an overflow box put in by the people that made your tank. [/quote]
Nope. Al and I drilled 2 big holes in the back of my tank, added a couple bulk heads, a PVC 90 and some gutter guard to keep the critters out in each of the drain pipes.
As long as you have good surface agitation then you shouldn’t have any surface scum.
Ok everyone, slow down John, we are doing all the work Saturday morning so if you would like to come by that would be great!
Who can make an overflow box for me that doesn’t look crappy? If I am going to have 3 holes in my tank, it needs to have an overflow. Also, I hear three holes, but that means nothing to me because I have No experience drilling tanks or doing plumbing.
I have always wanted to learn everyones ways, and I have no set way, if you can’t learn new ways to do things, you can never improve in whatever you do. I am always changing my ideas and understandings on new information that I learn. I had only planned on the elbow idea at DPA’s because that is all I have seen. I will learn the rest as you guys teach me
John, wanna stop by the shop tomorrow if you have some time? Let me know, I have some questions!
Yeah, absolutely Jared. We can make an overflow box, i have all the tools, what i don’t have is the glue/solvent weld solutions for acrylic, there are two kinds one thicker then the other. it can be as simple or complicated as you want. I like to learn new stuff too, so i’m sure we could make something sweet. I’ll stop up tommrw, you there til 4 or later?
till 4 tomorrow. Usually Fridays are until 8, but tomorrow I get a break ;D
or Jon can bring in his DIY hang on syphon overflow and try to explain how it works.
In theory, it works like this.
and when built, looks something like this:
