this is what i was talking about at the meeting…im guessing to try to cut it like any other zoas…underneath the mat is like a white fleshy thing that the zoas are attached to…
i found a pic of exactly what i have…
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I would take an exacto knife and slice under the mat.
BTW, I’ll take one of the frags PBJ! PBJ! PBJ!
haha gotcha, im going to attempt this tomorrow
don’t forget to wear goggles and gloves.
yes try too get as much meat as possible with the cut. use a piece of one inch pvc to help shield the fresh glued zoos till they attach. the pvc fits nicly around frag plug. or use wedding vail around plug loosly till attaches
Well, i don’t often frag zoos and palys, but when i do, i take one of those bamboo shish kabob sticks from the dollar store, round off the tip a little bit from a needle point to a blunt point, and use that to pry/scrape some zoos of their rock. they dont like it, and ooze a lot of puss, but many come clean and can be trans planted. I don’t know, just my method.
It’s messy, but you gots to crack some eggs to make an Oumlette!
These are not zoas(Zoanthids) or what hobbyist would call Palys(which are actually Protopalythoa). I know many of you may role your eyes to semantics, but I would have given completely different advice had I thought you were fragging Palythoa. I will try to post some advice tonight as I am really late for work, lol.
Jon
PS word of caution. Do not let corals of the genus Palythoa any where near stonies as they will grow right over them.
yea, i was trying to be as clear as possible at the meeting…but words werent helping, ha…anyway let me know what u think i should do Jon…im going to go out here shortly and grab some glue so ill be ready!!!
Make SURE you wear gloves and goggles! Palythoa produce palytoxin, which can send a person into shock and possibly kill them.
I would try to get some rocks/plugs/dics or what ever next to it so they can grow onto it vs just trimming and trying to get it to attach. However since this is not a Protopalythoa or a Zoanthid you may actually have good odds of glue working. I don’t have massive experience fragging Protopalythoa Palythoa.(just had it in my qt tank for two months now) But it seems to attach fairly quickly and since the polyps are connected and not a small as an individual zoa it is less likely to come lose.
These particular corals(Palythoa) get a strong hold really quickly. Many people warn that they will grab on to stonies quickly and over grow them. Mine attached to the floor of the aquarium with in 4-5 days time. If you have a decent amount of it you could try gluing some, but I wouldn’t cut it all up and glue all of it incase it doesn’t go well. Make sure to run carbon after cutting.(or replace if you are already running it)
As I and other said at the meeting and as Bellamy just said. Gloves and goggles are required. Use extreme caution.
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However since this is not a protopalythoa or a zoanthid … I don’t have massive experience fragging protopalythoa…[/quote]
Jon twice you said this sentence. I thought it was a typo the first time but could you clarify.
Is this a protopalythoa?
Or in the family of palythoa but not a protopalythoa?
Or are you not sure what exactly the name is but it is like protopalythoa?
Both sentences have negatives before the word protopalythoa and then go on to discus how to frag protopalythoa. Was a little confusing…Thanks in advance AL
Eric Borneman has a blurb for these in his book, “Aquarium Corals”, and their scientific name is either Palythoa Caribaeorum or Palythoa caesia, so to answer your question Al, these are palythoa but not protopaly’s.
P.S. I feel smart now! PBJ! PBJ! PBJ!
Ted’s got it. Correction made in my last post. One time I typed Protopalythoa when I meant to type Palythoa. I’ve hardly slept in the last week, so please forgive the typo. Thanks for helping me correct it.
The majority of the time hobbyists refer to Protopalythoa as “Palythoa†which is not an abbreviation that should be used, in my opinion, because it represents a different genus of coral.
palythoa, protopalythoa, zoanthid…=all the same pretty damn much! I’ve seen many a folks use the same terms for each!
technically… if they were the same, y different species/family names?? (not starting trouble, just pointing out there IS indeed differences and some of them MAY be important. ESPECIALLY when doing something like this…)
Zoanthids and Protopalythoa are commonly kept with stonies in mixed reef tanks. Palythoa will grow over and kill SPS. You keep thinking they are the same. 
Oh btw if they are the same then it wouldn’t matter if I sold you just any plain brown Protopalythoa at the same price that a Purple hornet zoanthid goes for on ebay? Or the price of Protopalythoa grandis.(Protopalythoa grandis can be a beautiful coral if you find the right color morph, check them out, currently they are the top of my list of must have corals)
ok, so i think im going to cut off two small pieces just to see how they make out…
then where i cut at, im going to lay a frag disk incase the coral does recover…
ill be sure to post some pics when i do, later…
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Eric Borneman has a blurb for these in his book, “Aquarium Corals”, and their scientific name is either Palythoa Caribaeorum or Palythoa caesia, so to answer your question Al, these are palythoa but not protopaly’s.[/quote]
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Ted’s got it.[/quote]
Thanks … but I can’t take credit. That was Jason … le-frog